Henry Shirley, esq
of Hyde Hall Jamaica

DNA Haplotype I

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Henry Sherdley of Chambery France (Savoy), partner in the Compagnie Anglais, British diplomatic envoy to Turin, Kingdom of Sardinia and Savoy.

married Maria De Vlieger

children:

1(ii). Bernard Shirley see here

1(iii). Edward Shirley

1(iv). James Shirley - he died in British, East Florida after some controvery

1(i). Henry Shirley, esq. of Hyde Hall christened 1745 in Chambery Savoy (now France). Charges d' Affaire at the court of Catherine the Great in Moscow Russia; Proprietor of Hyde Hall Jamaica; He died 30 November 1812 at his residence at 1 Upper Wimpole Street, London, England 

More information about Hyde Hall including Henry Shirley's list of slaves (c1817)

married Hannah Spencer, daughter of John Spencer, esq, proprietor of Petersfield estate, Jamaica WI. She married 1st Thomas Rock.

1797, Sat., Dec. 9. Monday last died at. her lodgings in Bath, Mrs. Shirley, wife of the Hon. Henry Shirley, one of the Members of the Colonial Council in Jamaica.

illegitimate children  (mother: Sally Skiers, a free mullato woman of Petersfield estate, Jamaica 

2(i). Mary Edmund Shirley born 14 November 1791. Baptised 25 June 1793 daughter of free mulatto Sally Skiers of Kingston and Henry Shirley (likely of Hyde Hall, but not confirmed); She died as an infant, buried at Kingston 2 July 1793 as Mary Edmund Shirley (not Skiers), "a quadroon child" (Vol 2 pg 137).

2(ii). Edmund Skiers, Esq. M.D. Corrected December 2020 baptized on October 15, 1794 in Kingston, Jamaica, son of free mulatto Sally Skiers of Kingston and Henry Shirley (later confirmed, of Hyde Hall). He was named in his father's 1813 will as Edmund Skiers, not Edmund Shirley. At the time Henry Shirley's will stated Edmund Skiers was apprenticed to John Newby of Poland Street London, surgeon. Henry Shirley provided an annuity for his son's maintenance and money for his education. UK Death Duty records also named him Edmund Skiers, age 18 and itemized the corpus of his inheritance as L1,630 (minus death duty). Edmund Skiers MD died in Paris on 18 May 1860, age 66. His estate was probated in the UK (and with death duties)

married Rosa Lloyd on 1 July 1829 at St Marylebone Parish in London; She died in 1876 in Paris. Her estate was probated in the UK


  • 1813 Aug 25 (probate date) - Will of Henry Shirley esq of Hyde Hall, Upper Wimpole Street London Prob\11\1543\ ....To or for the benefit of Edmund Skiers an infant the natural son of Sally Skiers of the parish of Kingston in the said Island of Jamaica born 15 Oct. 1794 and now apprentice to Mr. John Newby of Poland Street surgeon one clear annual sum of 100 pounds of like lawful money and I do hereby direct that my said Trustee or Trustees for the time being do and shall pay and apply the last mentioned yearly sum of one hundred pounds or so must and such part and parts thereof as to my said Trustees or Trustee or their survivors or survivor of them or the Executors or adivsors of such survivor shall from...shall meet in and for the maintenance and education of the said Edmund Skiers until he shalla ttain the age of twenty one years and shall ...lay out the surplus... government securities to the intent that the same may accumulate for the benefit of the said Edmund Skiers until as said age of twenty one years and upon the attaining that age he and shall transfer and pay the said stocks and funds and all accumulated to him for his own use and in case the death of the said Edmund Skiers under the age of twenty one years....then paid to the said Sally Skiers mother of the said Edmund Skiers.

Editor: Edmund was approximately 16-18 years old at the time Henry wrote his will and at that age used the surname SKIERS not surname SHIRLEY. By contrast other relatives of illigitimate birth were differentiated and mentioned in the Will as to whether they used the surname Shirley, or not.

  • 1818 - Royal College of Surgeons (UK): Edmund Skiers, Residence: France, Date of Appointment: 1 May 1818
  • 1825 - [Google Books] Dissertation sur Le Croup; These; Presentee et soutenue a la Faculte de medecine de Paris le 9 Mai 1825, pour obtenir le grade de Docteur en medecine; par Edmund Skiers de la Jamaique; Licencie praticien de medicine et Chirurgien; Membre du College Royal de chirurgie de Londres etc etc.

    [dedication, page 3]

Henry Shirley esq (Hyde Hall jamaique)
Temoignage d'amitie, d'estime et de reconnaissance.
(Translation: Testimony of friendship, esteem and recognition.)

Jost-Louis Mahler esq (Bruchmatt, Lucerne)
Gage de 'lamitie la plus sincere, failble tribut de ma gratitude pour la bienveillance extreme qu'il in' a temoignee, et 'linteret particulier qu'il a pris aux succes de mes etudes.

(Translation: Token of the most sincere friendship, low tribute of my gratitude for the extreme benevolence can testify, and the particular interest he has taken in the success of my studies.

- E Skiers 
     
  • 1829 - The Morning Post (London) 2 July 1829 pg 4 - On Wednesday the 1st instant, at All Souls Church, St Marylebone, Edmund Skiers, Esq M.D. to Rosa third daughter of the late Mr Edmund Lloyd of Harley Street

Editor: Harley Street was famous for doctor's offices in London, and was 1 street from Wimpole Street where Henry Shirley esq of Hyde Hall died in 1812. The church at St Marylebone was where several family members of Henry Shirley of Hyde Hall were married.

  • 1849 - [publication advertisement] A Sketch of a popular and novel Treatment for Diarrhoea, Dysentery, and English and Asiatic Cholera ; with illustrative Cases of the Diseases. By Edmund Skiers, M. D. (Honoured by the Royal Medal for Cholera in Paris, 1832.) London: Highly, 1849. Pamphlet. 8vo. pp.91.
  • 1860 - The Morning Chronicle (London) 23 May 1860 pg 7 - Skiers - On the 18th inst., at his residence, 28 Rue d'Angouleme-St-Honore Paris. Edmund Skiers, Esq M.D. aged 66

Editor: In other words, Edmund Skiers, surgeon of London and Paris was born about 1794, same as Edmund Skiers, son of Sally Skiers of Kingston Jamaica

  • 18 August 1860 - Effects under L450 - Letters of Administration of the personal esate and effects of Edmund Skiers late of 23 Rue D'Angouleme in the City of Paris in France surgeon deceased who died 18 May 1860 at Rue D'Angouleme aforesaid were granted at the Principal Registry to Rosa Skiers of 23 Rue D'Angouleme aforesaid Widow the relect of the said Deceased she having been first sworn
 
  • 10 August 1876 - Effects under L20 - The Will with two Codicils of Rosa Skiers late of 103 Rue de Morny Paris in France Widow who died 4 July 1876 at 103 Rue de Morny was proved at the Principal Registry by Walpole Eyre Greenwell of 30 Blandford-square in the County of Middlesex Gentleman the Nephew the sole Executor

Note: the nephew Walpole Eyre Greenwell is via the maternal line, not through her husband Edmund.

Edmund Skiers MD is clearly the son of Henry Shirley esq of Hyde Hall, rather than Edmund Shirley who married Mary Ivy Mann in Jamaica, long been presented below

 


Note: Y-DNA from a descendnat of the Edmund Shirley family presented below matches Y-DNA from descendants of Bernard Shirley esq (the brother of Henry Shirley of Hyde Hall). So the family below are still descended in the male line as has been stated earlier (Howver the exact descent is now broken, probably only for 1 generation)

Edmund Shirley of St George Parish Jamaica A free person of color at the time of his marriage in 1813. He was identified as father of the following children in parish birth and baptism records

married Mary Ivey Mann on 18 August 1813  "free peoples of color" by banns at Maccaw Springs, St George Parish, Surrey Jamaica

children:

3(i). Elizabeth Ivy Shirley born October 14, 1813 Portland, Jamaica; christened 12 March 1817 at St George, Jamaica

3(ii). Bernard Ivy Shirley born July 16, 1815 Portland, Jamaica, christened 12 March 1817 at St George, Jamaica Shirleys of Fairy Hill, Portland Parish

married Elizabeth Young Harrison  

3(iii). Edmund Lilley Shirley christened 19 August 1820 at St George, Jamaica

married Mary Rebecca Harrison

married? 2) Margretta Fleming (mother of Richard Carby Shirley, if same Edmund Shirley)

children: 

4(i). Theresa Shirley born October 19, 1837 Portland, Jamaica; christened 11 March 1838 at St George, Surrey, Jamaica to Edmund Lilley and Mary Shirley

4(ii). Matilda Rebecca Shirley born 1839; christened 23 February 1840 at St George, Surrey, Jamaica.

4(iii). Edward Shirley (possible son)

4(iv). Richard Carby Shirley (possible son) christened 22 May 1842 at Saint George Parish, Surrey, Jamaica, son of Edmund and "Margaretta" Shirley

3(iv). Richard Mann Shirley b. 1820 Portland, Jamaica; christened 19 August 1820 St George, Jamaica Shirleys of Shirley Castle, Portland Parish

married Margaret Hall

3(v). David Robert Harrison Shirley  born 10 April 1823 Portland, Jamaica; christened 29 November 1823 at St George Parish, Jamaica, son of Edmund and Mary Ivy Shirley. He died 12 June 1893 at Doman Pasture Trelawny, age 70 (b 1823)

David Shirley, age 70 [b 1823], married, laborer, died on 12 June 1893 at Doman Pasture, Trelawny. His daughter Amelia Scarlett was the informant

married Isabella _________ widow of David Shirley of Doman Pasture Trelawny at time of her death on 17 February 1895

Isabella Shirley widow of David Shirley, laborer, died at Doman Pasture Trelawny on 17 February 1895, age 50. Son Robert Shirley was the informant.

children:

4(i). Amelia Shirley She was the informant at the time of her father David Shirley's death in 1893. She married _____ Scarlett

4(ii). Robert Shirley He was the informant at the time of his mother Isabella Shirley's death in 1895.

3(vi). Peter Cairns Shirley b. December 24, 1824 St George, Portland Jamaica 


Who is this Shirley family? Clearly from Portland, Jamaica

Email 2019 - opening of 1 page autobiography of Hylton Neil Morris, son of James Morris and wife Maria Shirley of Hope Bay, Portland Jamaica.

"I was born in Jamaica, British West Indies in 1885 on the 9th of June. My grandparents were English stock and Shirley was the family name. Grandpa's name was David, but I can't recollect Grandma's Christian name.... My Mother was one of five children -- David, Samuel, George, Matilda, and Maria (my mother). My father's name was Peter James Morris. He died when I was one and a half years old and I do not remember him. He was nicknamed Maury. Mother lived to raise that large family by her own ingenuity. She operated a country store and bakery."

David Shirley - nothing more known

married ________

children:

1(i). David Shirley Jr

1(ii). Samuel Shirley

1(iii). George Shirley

1(iv). Matilda Shirley

1(v). Maria Shirley born say 1860 - She married Peter James Morris and had children, one of whom was Hylton Neil Morris b 1885

 

 

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NOTE: There are several Shirley families who may have had additional children. The child was not named in the birth records. Sometimes the parents were not listed, just the name of the child. Other times just the mother's name and no father was listed.

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Return of slaves in parish of Saint George in the possession of Elizabeth Harrison 25th June 1817

Note, also in this registration list: [ ]lannica now Rebecca James, negro, age 9 Creole. She was later inherited by Mary Ivy Mann Shirley and registered by her as guardian for her daughter Elizabeth Ivy Shirley

Margaret Grant (Agnes) born about 1744, negro, age 63, Creole, She was sold by Elizabeth Harrison to John Panton Passley St Geo parish, registered by him in 1820, age 69

children

Mary Shirley (Juba) born about 1790; negro, age 27, Creole, ' Margaret Grant's daughter'

children:

Henry Harrison Shirley born about 1811; sambo, age 6, Creole 'Mary Shirley's son'

Charlotte Mary _____ born about 1807; mulatto, age 10, Creole 'Mary Shirley's daughter'

Louisa Harrison Shirley born about 1809; sambo, age 8, Creole 'Mary Shirley's daughter'

Margaret Harrison Shirley born about 1813; sambo, age 4, Creole 'Mary Shirley's daughter'

John Harrison Ivey born about 1818; negro, age 1 6/12, Creole; Remarks Juba, Mary Shirley, Born

Child registered 23 August 1820 same - among other slaves owned by Elizabeth Harrison, others sold to H S Passley et al

William Black Grant (Sam) born about 1794; negro, age 23, Creole 'Margaret Grant's son'; He was sold by Elizabeth Harrison to John Panton Passley St Geo parish, registered by him in 1820, age 26

Elizabeth Harrison Grant (Hagar) born about 1796; negro, 21, Creole 'Margaret Grant's daughter'; She was sold by Elizabeth Harrison to John Panton Passley St Geo parish, registered by him in 1820, age 27

Sarah Ann Grant (Doll/Dolly) born about 1805; negro, age 12, Creole, 'Margaret Grant's daughter', She was sold by Elizabeth Harrison to John Panton Passley St Geo parish, registered by him in 1820, named Sarah Ann Grant, age 18

 

   


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