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Likely father of John Shirley
of Croan, County Kilkenny
Paul Shirley of Ballykeal County Wexford, farmer. Held lands
of Toumbrick and Coolegarrow as primary tenant of Shapland Carew.
The tenancy was terminated by Carew due to a 'great arrear of
rent'. Sons John Shirley (likely later of Croan Kilkenny) and
Thomas Shirley (likely later of Belmount Kilkenny) were named
in the original 1742 tenancy agreement.
1742 Dublin Deed Registry Vol 104 page 514 - 3 June 1742 Shapland
Carew to Paul Shirley - Shapland Carew of Woodstowne in Co Waterford
esq demised unto Paul Shirley of Ballykeal in Co Wexford farmer
town and lands of Toumbrick and Coolegarrow then late in the
possession of Mr Walter Devereux situated in the Barony of Scarwalsh
and Co Wexford [excepting woods, minerals, etc] to hold unto
the said Paul Shirley from the Twenty Fifth day of March then
last past during the natural lives of the said Paul Shirley and
Jno Shirley and Thomas Shirley sons of the said Paul Shirley
and the survivor and survivor of them from of immediately after
the decease of the survivor fo them to Hold sd premises for 21
years at yearly rent of L90. Said indenture of Lease is witnessed
by Robert Wiley servant to the sd Shapland Carew and Arthur Shepheard
of the City of Dublin Publ Not. Memorial witnessed by sd Shepheard
and Jno Gaddiz of same city cordwainer. Paul Shirley <seal>
Registered 4 June 1742.
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John Shirley of Croan, Kilkenny, gent.
1. John Shirley, of Croan, Kilkenny, gent. - born about
1721. Appears in Kilkenny documents as early as 1761 "of
Croan, Kilkenny, farmer". Held 398 acres of town and lands
of Belmount.  Died
before 1794 [per a document indicating he is deceased] Will dated
1 Dec 1791. Proven 19 June 1793 [per Betham's Abstracts], naming
sons John and Paul Shirley. This John Shirley leased his lands
at Belmount to Thomas Shirley [per a 1794 document involving
members of this family and the Shirleys
"of Belmount"]
"In 1741, John married his cousin Sarah Shirly and
had two daughters with her, Anne and Sarah. He also had two sons,
Paul and John with his housekeeper, Mary Hickey" - Research
probably written by Archdeacon Rev Paul William Nassau Shirley
after sending letters to distant relatives asking for family
history information (Shirley Assoc has one of the letters) See
this research document in full near the bottom of this page
married Sarah Shirly in 1741 [index of marriage bonds
in the Diocese of Ossery, Ferns, and Leighlin]. Appears to have
"separated" by 1779 [deed of separation: "Wife
accepted payment of 20 pounds sterling annually for the rest
of her life. Relinquish all claims she might have]
children:
2(i). Anne Shirley supposedly, daughter of John Shirley
of Croan and wife Sarah Shirley according to family lore. No
further proof
"In 1741, John married his cousin Sarah Shirly and
had two daughters with her, Anne and Sarah. He also had two sons,
Paul and John with his housekeeper, Mary Hickey" - See research
at bottom of page
Possibly the following Anne Fitzgerald nee Shirley, named
in the 1811 will of John Shirley of Croan (the younger)
1811 Will of John Shirley (the younger) of Croan - "...I
will and bequeath unto Anne Fitzgerald of Ha[ ]kin St Kilkenny
the sum of L5 a year to her during her life in addition to her
presnet annuity and L5 a year to her daughter Sally during her
life..."
1826 September 13 - Death of Mrs Anne Fitzgerald alias
Sherley, age 78 (born 1746), mother of James Aylward of City
of Kilkenny memorial at St Patricks City of Kilkenny
Erected by Mr. James Aylward of the City of Kilkenny in
memory of his daughter, Ann who died September, 1818, also his
mother Mrs. Anne Fitzgerald alias Sherley died 13th September,
1826 aged 78, also four children who died young.
2(ii). Sarah Shirley supposedly, daughter of John Shirley
of Croan and wife Sarah Shirley according to family lore. No
further proof
"In 1741, John married his cousin Sarah Shirly and
had two daughters with her, Anne and Sarah. He also had two sons,
Paul and John with his housekeeper, Mary Hickey"
2(i). John Shirley "the younger "of Croan, esquire.
- born, say 1750. Involved in land transaction called Monagore
and the Chapelle Quarter (24 acres) in the Barony of Kells, Kilkenny
in 1790. Held 100 acres at Ballynacooly called Corrabeney in
the barony of Knoctopher, Kilkenny [1802], held 33 acres of Closeregg
in the barony of Gowran, Kilkenny [1804], 9 acres and a dwelling
house at Balyduffe called Mount Argula Conly in the barony of
Gowan [1806], 57 acres called Clonbugg in the barony of Knoctopher
[1810]. His will was dated Dec 17 1810 and probated Feb 25, 1811.
Directed to be buried in the family burial place in the churchyard
of Aghaviller. Named his niece Mary Shirley, daughter of his
brother Paul. Also named daughter Mary, and cousin Thomas Shirley
who he granted his lands at Garrynaman. He named next an unidentified
John Shirley to whom he granted lands at Newland. The residual
of his estate was granted to brother Paul Shirley. He granted
his son Paul an annuity out of lands at Croan "after he
reaches 21". Family lore says that
John Shirley and his brother Paul Shirley were born of the housekeeper,
Mary Hickey and not John's wife Sarah.
married Naomi Reade, spinster and elder daughter of
Henry Reade, esq. of the town of Wexford about Dec 7 1799 [by
marriage agreement which conveyed lands of Sheepstown, Garrynaman
and Croan]. She instituted a petition for divorce in 1807 in
the Consistorial Court of Ossery Diocese. "had agreed to
live separate lives and any disputes to be referred to barristers."
Involved 107 acres at Ballynacooley, lands of Clopregg known
as Bishopes Hills in the barony of Gowan, Kilkenny, 310 acres
within the town lands of Kilmanogue, Kilkenny, 140 acres within
the town lands of Sheepstown called Ballinvadory Garealeagh.
contradiction: According to 1818 newspaper
article, he died without issue
children:
3(i). Paul Shirley - likely identified in 1828
as "of Sheepstown, Kilkenny". named in father's 1810
will under age of 21. Therefore born, say 1800 [1 year after
marriage to Naomi Reade]. Place in the care of his uncle Paul
Shirley upon his father's death, and not his mother's care? Was he illegiitimate?
3(ii). Mary Shirley - named in her father's 1810 will
2(ii). Paul Shirley of Ballintee [1794], of Carlow
[1795] of Meyne [1810], of Croan [1811] gent. - born, say 1755.
Dead by 1813 document; Died prior to 1821 document stating somewhat
contradictory that he is deceased. Possibly the same Paul Shirley
who married Frances Eaton in 1790 [per Index of Marriage Bonds].
An 1813 document stated he owed John Walsh L730; Family
lore says that John Shirley and his brother Paul Shirley were
born of the housekeeper, Mary Hickey and not their father John
Shirley's wife Sarah.
married Catherine Butler about 19 May 1795 by license
1795 [after] May 19 Ossory Diocese Marriage Licence Bond
- Paul Shirly gent of co. Carlow to Miss Catherine Butler of
Kilkenny
1813 December 4 Registry of Deeds Vol 692 page 82 - Lands
of Belmount - Articles of agreement bearing date the 4 day of
December 1813 made between John Shirley of Croan in the co of
Kilkenny gentleman of the one pt and Edmd Butler of Castle Cronfile
in the sd Co. gentleman of the other prs. Whereby after recit'g
that sd John Shirley having occasion to borrow the sum of L200
got the said Edm Butler to join him in a bond to secure the repaym't
thereof having in [consideration] of which and in order to indemnify
sd Edmd Butler for the same he sd John Shirley for himself and
his heirs had agreed to convey unto sd Edmd Butler his heirs
and assigns all that and those the town and lands of Belmount
in the Co of Kilkenny being 400 a[cres] or therebts for the purpose
of indemnifying him the sd Edmd Butler his heirs and assigns
in case they shoudl be called or obliged to pay the said sum
of L200 with interest for the same etc. John Shirley had also
agreed to give grant and settle on Catherine Shirly widow of
Paul Shirly late of Croan afsd one annuity of L50 to be payable
out of the said lands of Bellmount by half yearly payments on
every 20 Sept and 25 March for the term of her life and sd John
Shirly had further agreed to settle on Ellen Shirly his sister
and daughter of the sd Catherine Shirly and [ ] one annuilty
of L50 payable out of the lands of Belmount afsd half yearly
on every five Nov and five May and in case sd Ellen should marry
and have issue [ ] said annuity should go to such issue in such
shares as she should [ ] said respective sums of L50 in no [
] to be payable but in the event of said John Shirley his heirs
or assigns succeeding to his uncles property or parts thereof
for which he was then at law [suggests John Shirley is nephew
of Edmd Butler?] which said deed is witnessed by Thos Corcoran
of the City of Kilkenny gentleman and Michl Murphy of the said
City writing clerk and Mr Willoughbey of Mayo in the [ ] Co farmer...Edmnd
Butler <seal> [oath of witnesses] this 22 day of July 1815
etc. Registered 26 July 1815
children:
3(i). Mary Shirley - unmarried as of 1810. Named in
1810 will of uncle John Shirley of Croan
3(ii). Ellen Shirley - named in 1813 document as daughter
of Paul Shirley of Croan dec'd and his widow Catherine Shirley,
nee Butler
3(ii). John Shirley of Newland, Croan etc Kilkenny -
Residual heir of the estates of his uncle John Shirley Jr of
Croan; Only son and heir of Paul Shirley late of Croan dec'd.
according to 1818 document - He sold 65 acres of Old Croan to
John Walsh of City of Kilkenny in 1813 to help pay off some of
his father's debt owed to Walsh. He also sold 20 acres of Sheepstown
to Elinor Devereux for L200; He is likely the John Shirley identified
in later lawsuits as 'without heirs'
1813 Sept 15 Registry of Deeds Vol 671 page 18 - Lands
of Old Croan - Deed of sale dated 15 September 1813 between John
Shirly of Croan gent only son and heir at law and special occupant
of Paul Shirley late of Croan gent dec'd of one part and John
Walsh of City of Kilkenny esq of other part......Reciting that
the sd Paul Shirley at the time of his death stood justly and
fairly indebted unto said John Walsh in sum of L730 stg o his
the sd Paul Shirley's own separate and distinct account and sd
John Shirley having proposed to sell and dispose of his estate
right title and interest in the said Lands unto the sd John Walsh
for a sum of L480 stg and to allow him credit in the said purchase
money for the sum of L480 stg and to secure him in the balance
of the debt so due and owing by the sd father as aforesaid and
also Reciting that the said John Shirley in consideration of
the sd John Walsh he having discharged by written receipt the
sd John Shirley as Administrator of the said Paul....the sd John
Shirley for himself hath granted to said John Walsh town and
lands of Old Croan 65 acres...
1813 December 11 Registry of Deeds Vol 671 page 18 - Lands
of Sheepstown - Deed of sale dated 11 Decr 1813 between John
Shirly of Croan gent only son and heir at law and special occupant
of Paul Shirley late of Croan gent dec'd of one part and Mrs
Elinor Devereux of City of Kilkenny of other part. Sd John Shirley
L200 sell unto Elinor Devereux all those the yearly chief or
headrent of L20.2.6 payable by the sd Elinor Devereux of all
those the lands of Sheepstown situate in Barony of Knocktopher
in the possession of sd Elinor Devereux devised to her by John
Shirley late of Croan gent dec'd by Indent' of lease dated the
30 April 1810 for 999 years. Sd John Shirley executed a lease
of sd premises with sd Devereux for ever at a pepper corn annual
rent....[in case of problems] resort to the lands of Sheepstown
or the lands of Belmount now in the possession of said John Shirley
or to any lands now in possession of Mrs John Shirley. Wit Michael
Murphy of City of Kilkenny, writing clerk, David Fennell of sd
City shopkeeper
17 Feb 1818 The Freeman's Journal (Dublin Ireland) page
3 - Court of Prerogative - [?] v Shirley - This was a proceeding
relative to the Will of John Shirley late of Croan in the County
of Kilkenny esq. deceased by which Will having died without issue,
he bequeathed all his estates and property to his only brother,
Paul Shirley, subject to some legacies to his servants. This
suit which was carried out at the instance of certain persons
heretofore defeated in 2 different suits, instituted by themselves
and in their own names for the purpose of invalidating this will
was founded on the alleged illegitimacy of John Shirley, the
testator. The worshipful Doctor Ratcliff in delivering judgement,
gave at considerable lenght a full exposition of the law upon
the subject and dismissed the suit or claim of the Crown. By
this we understand that John Shirley the only son of the aforesaid
Paul Shirley is under the above mentioned will, the person entitled
to said estates and property. The proceedings in this case have
been pending for seven years.
Likely the son of John Shirley 'the younger' and Naomi
Reade (or by some other woman?):
Paul Shirley of
Cloughscreg Kilkenny, Ireland.
minor child in 1811, held lands of Kilmanogue, Old Croan and
Garrendenonagh; May have died about 1837 if one family story
is correct.
Mar 14 1804 Registry of Deeds Vol 567 pg 14. Lands
at Closecregg - John Shirley to Edmund Walsh - Received
of lease between John Shirley of Croan Kilkenny esq of 1st part
and Edward Walsh of Mang Kilkenny farmer and James Walsh and
Patrick Walsh of same place of 2nd part. Lands of Closeregg 33
acres formerly held by Edward Hanrahan in Barony of Gowran Kilkenny
for 41 years. Wit: Peter Walsh of the Roare Kilkenny farmer,
Thomas Shirley of Croan Aforesaid land steward Sworn 2 Aug 1804.
- Registry of Deeds Dublin
15 August 1822 Registry of Deeds Vol 808 page 454 - Lands
of Corrabelly and Ballinacooly - Deed of release between Richard
Reade Esq and Naomi Reade otherwise Shirley wife, of Cottage
Co Tipperary, Thomas Shirley of Garrynaman, Paul Shirley of
Cloghscregg gent both of the co of Kilkenny and John Shirley
of the City of Killkenny of the one part and John Walsh of the
City of Kilkenny aforesaid esq of the 2nd part. [Grantors named
again] released unto the said John Walsh all right title interest
claim to the town and lands of Corrabelly containing 187 acres
also lands of Ballinacole or Ballinacooly containing 117 acres
situate in the Barony of Knocktopher formerly belonging to Robert
Walsh esq but have for some time past in the actual possession
of the said John Walsh by deed...Rents etc that theretofore belonged
to John Shirley late of Croan deceased. Wit Martin Slathery of
City of Kilkenny writing clerk, Thomas Wilson of Carrick on Suir
in co Tipperary. Paul Shirley <seal> John Walsh <seal>
Registerd 29 November 1825.(2 Feb 1827 Vol 820 page 593, lease
to Walsh)
married Jane Walpole; She was the sister of William
and Robert Walpole of Cloghscregg Kilfane Parish, Kilkenny; She
is likely the Jane Shirley who died in 1867 in Thomastown district,
age 74 (born 1793)
Children
1(i). John Shirley chr 13 May 1822 at Thomastown Catholic
Parish, Kilkenny (likely the same person
as next)
1822 May 13 - John Shurley chr to Paul Shirley and wife
Jane Walpole of Cloughscreg - Ireland Catholic Parish Registers,
Ossery, Thomastown
1(ii). William John Shirley born 13 May 1823 (source:
findagrave, likely 1822, see above)
likely at Cloughscreg Thomastown Catholic Parish, Kilkenny. Migrated
to Boston Massachusetts where he became a naturalized US citizen.
Then moved to Michigan in 1851 and married in Allegan Co. He
lived in Allegan Co Michigan in 1860, 1870, and 1880 US Federal
census. He died 4 March 1913. Buried Millgrove
Cemetery, Allegan Co Michigan (findagrave.com) His
marriage record in Michigan names his parents
[1823 May 13 birth stated in USA Naturalization] Petitions
for Naturalization, Suffolk Co Massaschusetts - Dated 26 June
1852 (curious date, after marriage in 1851
in Michigan) Respectfully represents William J Shirley
of Boston in the county of Suffolk trader an alien and a free
white person that he was born at Clossgregg in the county of
Kilkenny Ireland the 13 day of May 1823, and is now 29 years
of age, that he arrived at Colebrook in the State of New Hampshire
4 July 1840 then being a minor under the age of 18 years [resided
at Boston ever since]. Wit: William Lee, A K Loring
Email from Christine: "My 3-great grandfather William
John Shirley born May 13 1824 died Allegan Michigan wrote a fifteen
year diary from 1881 to 1883 and from 1886 to 1898 of which I
am currently transcribing. On his 73rd year of birth he wrote
of "a time lived at Croan House, the ancient home of the
Shirley's. A lovely place and full of ghosts as an average graveyard."
I understand, from all my reading/typing, his father died when
William was 13 years of age
Diary: May 13 [1897] - Seventy three years ago I was brought
into this queer world at the home of aunt Mary and Uncles William
and Robert Walpole in Colsgregg,
3 miles south of the pretty little town of Thomastown on the
lovely river Nore, and some 11 miles SE of the famous city of
Kilkenny. Full one half of my youth was spent there, a hundred
times happier than the time lived at Croan House, the ancient
home of the Shirleys. A lovely place and full of ghosts as an
average graveyard. I wonder who lives on it now. I should like
very much to revisit it and take a good look at it, drink out
of its famous spring and bathe in the pond." - William John
Shirley
married 1) Emily A. Howe on 1 July 1851 at Allegan
Co Michigan. She died 2 November 1901 at Allegan Co Michigan.
1851 July 1 - William J Shirley age
30 (b 1821) married Emily A Howelett, age 25 (b 1826) at Allegan
Michigan.
married 2) Eliza B Howlett on 4 October 1903 at Heath Allegan Co Michigan
1903 Oct 4 - William J Shirley age
80 born Ireland (1823) son of Pall Shirley and Jane Walpole married
Eliza B Howlett at Heath, Allegan Co Michigan
children:
2(i). Henry W. Shirley died 21 January 1857, no doubt in infancy; Parents
named on tombstone, buried Millgrove Cemetery, Allegan Co Michigan
2(ii). Willis Herbert Shirley born 20 April 1856 at Allegan Co Michigan.
His obituary was published on 30 August 1928. He was a fruit
grower in Allegan Co Michigan
1928 August 30 - Obituary - Allegan
Fruit Grower Drops Dead at Home - William H Shirley, 72, prominent
fruit grower of Millgrove, Allegan county, dropped dead in his
home late yesterday. He was born in Millgrove and had passed
his life there. Surviving are the widow and three sons, Tracy,
Allegan; Roscoe, South Bend, Ind. and Maxwell, San Diego Cal.
married Mary A. Haskins on 9 April 1878 at Allegan Co Michigan
married Edith Mott on 28 August 1883 at Concord, Jackson Co Michigan;
age 57 in 1920 census household; named as mother of both Roscoe
and Lyle Maxwell Shirley in their birth records.
children:
3(i). Tracy B Shirley (male) born 20 August 1879 (findagrave.com),
son of William Shirley and wife Mary Haskins,age 1 in 1880 census.
Living at Allegan Co Michigan at time of his father's death in
1928. He died 25 March 1962 at Allegan Co MI. Buried at Oakwood
Cemetery.
married Nina M Van Kenren on 8 November 1899 at Allegan, ?Iona Co Michigan.
She was the daughter of James Van Kenren.
3(ii). Roscoe Roe Shirley born 26 August 1889 in Allegan Co Michigan.
Son of William H. Shirley and Edith Mott. Worked as a production
clerk at the Cadillac Motor Company in Detroit Michigan at the
time of WWI Draft in 1917. He was married. Records state his
left limb was paralyzed. Living at South Bend Indiana at time
of his father's death in 1928. ?Living Troy NY in 1920. Father
born Ireland. Mother born England. Oddly,
a John Bateman Shirley (of a Scottish Shirley family) is a boarder
in his household in the census.
married Grace Case on 26 August 1909 in Allegan Co Michigan. Daughter
of John Case and Olive Schermerhorn.
?married May ______ born about 1886 Ohio. Father and mother born
Germany (wife in 1920 census)
children:
4(i). ?William H. Shirley born about 1919 NY, age 1 in 1920 census
4(ii). Ruth Amelia Shirley. She married George Edward Hicks in 1932 in
Allegan Co Michigan. Parents named at time of marriage.
4(iii). Marie Shirley. She married Joseph Vanfulpen in 1936 in Kalamazoo
Michigan. Parents named at time of marriage.
2(iii). Lyle Maxwell Shirley born 3 November 1903, age 16 in 1920 family
census household; age 26 in 1930 census. Living at San Diego
California at time of his father's death in 1928. British Airways
passenger list shows Lyle and his wife flew from London to New
York in 1947. He died 7 March 1978 in San Diego Co California
married Emily Maynard on 21 May 1927 in Orange County California
1(iii). Mary Ann Shirley chr 20 Feb 1825 at Thomastown
Catholic Parish, Kilkenny
1825 February 20 Mary Ann Shirley chr to Paul Shirley and
Jane Walpole of Closreg; Sponsored by Henry Walpole and Maria
Murphy
1(iv). James Shirley chr 11 July 1828 at Thomastown
Catholic Parish, Kilkenny
1828 July 11 James Shurley chr to Paul Shurley and Jane
Walpole of Cloughsreg. Sponsors Wm Walpole and Mary Walpole for,
Anty Hoyne. Thomastown Catholic Parish Register
1(v). Paul Shirley (Jr) chr 4 April 1832 at Thomastown
Catholic Parish, Kilkenny
4 April 1832 Paul Shurley chr to Paul Shurley and Jane
Walpole of Cloughscreg; Sponsors Robt Walpole and Mary Power
(by proxy) - Thomastown Catholic Parish Register
1(vi). Jane Shirley born 25 July 1834 Ireland. She
died 9 October 1912 at Williamsburg, Hampshire Co Massachusetts
USA . Married John Welsh/?Walsh/?Welch. Likely same Jane Welch
living Williamsburg Hampshire Co MA, age 74, widow, b Ireland
in 1910 census. This person immigrated in 1850, Walch in 1900
census, Welsh in 1880, all same town and county. (source:
death record, parents named.)
The drive leading to historic Croan House, Kilkenny
Ireland
A Stray family whose connection cannot be determined
as yet
1. John Shirley of Templeorum, Kilkenny. Held 182 acres
of land at Templeorum, Kilkenny. Deceased by 1781 [per document
involving the grant of his lands]
married Joanna otherwise Byrne, otherwise Gallawan, mother
of:
2.i John Shirley of Templeorum, Kilkenny - granted
182 acres of land of Templeorum in 1781 by mother Joanna Shirley
to be "held for the natural life of Sarah, wife of John
Shirley of Croan". Regranted the same lands to other parties
in the same year.
Taken from a letter written in 1988 by a member of the
Shirley Association. (Mary Shirley resident of Garranaman)
"I felt I should have no trouble fitting the pieces
into place. The more I read the more confusing it became. KNOCKABRANNA
I found was only 2miles from Coolcullen and John Shirley came
to Burnchurch from there. I did not find the name PAUL in his
family. After reading your Shirley NEWS, I took off on John Shirley
of Croan who in 1761 lesed 398 acres in Bellmouth. I followed
my imagination last Sunday and to my surprise, I discovered the
headstone in a remote graveyard ACHAVILLAR in KNOCKTOPHER BARONY.
A Shirley was known to have had land near KNOCKTOPHER and BELLMOUNT.
The headstone is in very bad shape and the writing is almost
worn off. No year could be found there, just the words: ERRECTED
BY PAUL SHIRLEY OF CROAN IN THE MEMORY OF HIS FATHER JOHN SHIRLEY,
ESQ.There are more Shirley names but the Christian names are
missing from the rain, etc.
I did meet a man who told me that Thomas Shirley was in
Garnamon in 1830-1850 and he took for g ranted that James Shirley
the coroner was his son. The lands of Garnamon were 345 acres
and April 25, 1860 James Shirley became legal owner. Some of
this acreage was leased to tenants leaving 213 acres with Garnamon
House.
EDITOR: Croan was earlier known as Croanbeg, appear in records
into the 1600s during age of Cromwell
It seems that the Shirleys lost Croan to the Reade family
not simply due to the divorce settlement. John Shirley may have
been granted Croan in mid 1700s via Reade connections, then married
into the family
The following letters were submitted by member, Bill Shirley
on January 17, 2008.
Email: ...As for the typed letter, I got it from Donna
Wagner I think it was a preacher that wrote it, but I can't remember
his name. I may have it in my e-mails, or some of the papers
that she has sent me. As for the hand written letter was written
by Allison ( Fulton ) Thurrott In August 1941 material coming
from her mother ( Matilda Fraser Fulton )and from her aunt (
Annie Fraser Shirley.) I got it from Carmen Glenn he is a descendent
of Jessie Shirley and Alfred Glenn. Hope this helps;
- Bill
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