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John Shirley of County Kilkenny

John Shirley (no info when or where he died), married Mary Rice of Newlands. John was a Protestant of Burnchurch and Mary was a Catholic of Newlands. Their sons who were baptised Protestants and the girls baptised Catholic. Due to the influence of the mother Mary, the father and sons became Catholics. They were evicted by their landlord, Lord Farmley. . They resisted and James and Richard were sentenced to 21 years transportation to Van Dieman's Land. Elizabeth and Catherine were also sentenced to transportation. But while waiting ship were imprisoned on Spike Island in Cork harbour. After two years they were released.

Children of John and Mary Rice Shirley

1. James

2. Richard

3. Henry lived in Rath Clouch, Danesfort

4. Elizabeth married her cousin, James Shirley the coroner for county Kilkenny

5. Catherine

6. daughter

7. daughter

8. daughter

from MARIA JONES <mariajones19@blueyonder.co.uk>
dateWed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:02 PM
Hi Ken just to let you know what Ive discovered. I worked backwards from my grandad Henry Robinson born 1905 died 1987. His mum was Margaret Howe (not Hawe) born 1872 died 1962. Her mum was Margaret Hayden married to Matthew Howe. Her mum was Margaret Shirley married to Stephen Hayden. Apparently Margaret Shirley was the daughter of John Shirley of Burnchurch and Mary Rice, daughter of Jane Murphy (Edmund Ignatius Rice of the Christian Brothers Kilkenny) and John Rice of Newlands....Thanks again, Maria - Liverpool

John Rice m. Jane Murphy - Note: Jane was the half sister to the famous Edmund Ignatius Rice, founder of the Christian Brothers catholic religious order. Jane's mother Margaret Tierney Murphy later as a widow married Robert Rice, the father of Edmund I. Rice.

Mary Rice m. John Shirley of Burnchurch

(apparently) Margaret Shirley m. Stephen Hayden

Margaret Hayden m. Matthew Howe

Margaret Howe b 1872.

Henry Robinson b 1905


James Shirley, Coroner, born ____ died 1888.

He married Elizabeth SHIRLEY, daughter of John Shirley of Burnchurch.

children

1. Thomas

2. William (went to USA)

3. Henry

4. Richard

5. John

6. Francis

7. James (had no family) (went to USA)

8. Elizabeth

9. Jane married James SHIRLEY (they had a son, Harry, who went to Australia).

10 Marion

11 Susan

12. Richard Joseph Jan 19, 1862 Garnaman House, Kells, Kilkenny, married Catherine Brennan

Family info provided by descendants.

We claim our Shirley line came from the dramatist, James Shirley 1596-1666 of England. Our James, the coroner, appears to us as an identical copy of the dramatist "MERMAID" . Our crest stamped on the silver tea spoons, etc... was always our mark of identity. Mermaid and JS.

Betty Shirley - "YOUR EDITOR HAS BEEN TO THIS LOCATION AND VISITED WITH THE SHIRLEYS DESCENDED FROM THIS FAMILY. I DID SEE THE TEASPOONS WITH THE MERMAID AND THE J.S. INITIALS."

 


Taken from a letter written in 1988 by a member of the Shirley Association.

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"I felt I should have no trouble fitting the pieces into place. The more I read the more confusing it became.

KNOCKABRANNA I found was only 2miles from Coolcullen and John Shirley came to Burnchurch from there. I did not find the name PAUL in his family. After reading your Shirley NEWS, I took off on John Shirley of Croan who in 1761 lesed 398 acres in Bellmouth. I followed my imagination last Sunday and to my surprise, I discovered the headstone in a remote graveyard ACHAVILLAR in KNOCKTOPHER BARONY. A Shirley was known to have had land near KNOCKTOPHER and BELLMOUNT.

The headstone is in very bad shape and the writing is almost worn off. No year could be found there, just the words: ERRECTED BY PAUL SHIRLEY OF CROAN IN THE MEMORY OF HIS FATHER JOHN SHIRLEY, ESQ.

There are more Shirley names but the Christian names are missing from the rain, etc.

CROAN is in the Parish of DUNAMAGGIN.

I did meet a man who told me that Thomas Shirley was in Garnamon in 1830-1850 and he took for g ranted that James Shirley the coroner was his son.

The lands of Garnamon were 345 acres and April 25, 1860 James Shirley became legal owner. Some of this acreage was leased to tenants leaving 213 acres with Garnamon House.

   


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